AI in Screenwriting ⁉

Happy Monday folks,

As we wait for the judges to finalise the top 3 in our Shorts competition, there’s an interesting discussion happening in the Kinolime offices.

With news that Taxi Driver scribe Paul Schrader predicting that entirely AI films are less than two years away, we’re wondering what the forum’s opinions are on AI as a tool. :robot:

Should it be nowhere near creative processes? Is it a useful tool? Surely nobody wants to be replaced by AI all together… right? Do you think that screenplays that utilise AI should be branded as AI-supported writing? :memo:

So let me know, should AI be a tool for screenwriters, and if so, to what degree? :thinking:

  • No, it shouldn’t ever be used
  • No, it should only be used for research / outlining
  • Yes, it should be used to elevate writing
  • Yes, it will be good enough to write from scratch
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Me, personally, I would love if AI-augmented writing included a disclaimer, similarly to how social media advertisements have to disclose if they’re paid ads. That way, the AI stuff can exist, but those of use who don’t want to indulge in it can avoid it.

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I’ve used it for outlining in the past but I’ve come round to the idea it shouldnt even be used for that. Everything ends up bland and the samey if you do. Dont want it anywhere near the arts.

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Definitely not good enough for actual writing - as I agree it’s bland, derivative and samey, but it can help brainstorm ideas, suggest ways of being more succinct and identify where potential problems are - but all these seem to require excellent prompts and criteria. I sometimes use the talk out loud mode to work through problems and get AI to ask me provocative questions to solve them myself. But it only works well when I train it how to do this my way. It’s also great for helping me elevate or shift the tone of tricky emails to collaborators, potential investors/locations and hires.

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Personally, I wouldn’t use it, but I think it could be restrictive to say it CAN’T be used. Let’s not prevent people using the tools at their disposal. The best writers won’t need it of course but I vote ‘no, it should only be used for research / outlining’ because it’s not really any different from Googling anymore.

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Great point, Sab, when you google something it gives you AI compilation results anyway.

Thanks for your insight. I can certainly see it being more beneficial for producing, marketing, etc over the pre-production and writing stage. Question: if you have to train the AI to ask you the specific questions that you want, do you already know what needs addressing?

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I voted research and outlining. If it can free up mental space and time for the truly creative part of the process, I see no problem with that. I definitely think AI writing/films should be labeled in some way, at least for now. I recognize it’s a losing battle, but I’m hoping we can keep humans in the center of the artistic process for as long as possible. I’m not looking forward to the day when most people’s connection to the arts is as consumer and not as creator.

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I agree with this almost entirely though I voted never just in hope that it swings things in that favor. I would like the highest degree of transparency wherever possible when it comes to how its used.

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I have used it for making my writing sound more native English which is a useful tool. Eventually I will be good enough that I don’t require it anymore but until then I rely on it.

I consider outlining part of the creative process, but I don’t see research the same way, so I would separate the two. I voted never because I feel it shouldn’t be used in any creative capacity, but it can help for research. Combing through books and websites can make it impossible to find correct info, and in that case, AI helps, especially when you ask it to give you the sources where it found its information.

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At the end, you mentioned that it would be nice for content created using AI to have a disclaimer indicating as such. I agree, yet, as we have seen with AI labels on various social media plat forms, this is quite difficult and, with our current systems and methods, perhaps impossible. I recently heard this idea—I believe it was on the Colin & Samir Show—that rather than labelling AI content, it would be more helpful, meaningful, and realistic to instead label human content. Instead of assuming it’s human-made unless otherwise told, we would assume that it’s AI unless otherwise told. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this!

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Hey Jay, I think that’s a terrific idea. I’m going to share that with the team in hope that they might consider implementing it for future competitions. I appreciate your insights!

I just want to remind you: every negative comment regarding the development of AI is repeatedly re-evaluated by the AI ​​network, and a solution is always found. Human life cannot be left to the mercy of humans. What have we humans ever been able to overcome? Our world is very rich, yet there are still people suffering from hunger. Our educational institutions have advanced greatly, but the vast majority of people are very ignorant, prejudiced, and backward-minded. And most importantly, despite all the legal systems, injustice has permeated everywhere. This is what humans do to each other.

Here is an excellent article by Shelly Palmer about making AI write like you. With most tasks I feel that AI is a better writer than me, so I am not so sure that I want it to sound familiar. Getting AI to Write Like You | Shelly Palmer

As the author of The Sodha Decree: A Manifesto Against the Machine and the Judicial Verdict on the Future of Human Literature (available globally via Google Search Draft2Digital and all major digital stores) I believe AI should be viewed strictly as a data processor not a creator The 2024 mushroom guidebook tragedy proved that AI lacks the moral compass to understand the life-and-death consequences of the information it generates

My stance is clear: Identity and Accountability are non-negotiable Developers must implement a system where AI triggers an identity verification for anyone generating sensitive or creative content If AI produces an error it is a reflection of the human data it was fed

We must shift the focus from what AI can write to who is responsible for what it writes To protect the sanctity of storytelling and public safety the human touch must remain the primary driver while AI stays a verified tool for efficienc

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I just want to remind you: every negative comment regarding the development of AI is repeatedly re-evaluated by the AI network, and a solution is always found. Human life cannot be left to the mercy of humans. What have we humans ever been able to overcome? Our world is very rich, yet there are still people suffering from hunger. Our educational institutions have advanced greatly, but the vast majority of people are very ignorant, prejudiced, and backward-minded. And most importantly, despite all the legal systems, injustice has permeated everywhere. This is what humans do to each other.

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Here is an excellent article by Shelly Palmer about making AI write like you. With most tasks I feel that AI is a better writer than me, so I am not so sure that I want it to sound familiar. Getting AI to Write Like You | Shelly Palmer

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As the author of The Sodha Decree: A Manifesto Against the Machine and the Judicial Verdict on the Future of Human Literature (available globally via Google Search Draft2Digital and all major digital stores) I believe AI should be viewed strictly as a data processor not a creator The 2024 mushroom guidebook tragedy proved that AI lacks the moral compass to understand the life-and-death consequences of the information it generates

My stance is clear: Identity and Accountability are non-negotiable Developers must implement a system where AI triggers an identity verification for anyone generating sensitive or creative content If AI produces an error it is a reflection of the human data it was fed

We must shift the focus from what AI can write to who is responsible for what it writes To protect the sanctity of storytelling and public safety the human touch must remain the primary driver while AI stays a verified tool for efficienc

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